Mike Barnicle talks with megachurch leader Bishop T.D. Jakes

“How do you find the time to locate your purpose if you’re surrounded by fear of where you live, fear of your children’s safety, worry about your children’s education, worry about your own job? How do you get to your purpose with all those other issues?,” asks Mike Barnicle of megachurch leader Bishop T.D. Jakes, who was featured on MSNBC’s Morning Joe to promote his new book “Destiny: Step into Your Purpose.” Listen to Bishop Jake’s answer here and his conversation with Mike on race relations in this country.


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